I would just sit there, and he would say, My son David and Paula never single dated, and I would look at David and start laughing and think, This is hilarious; I cant believe that he gets up and says this. His dad gave me six months of sex counseling before David and I got married, and I could nail him just with that and what he said to me. My dad lived a double life, one of a righteous family man and of a dynamic speaker in the public eye, but [another] one of sordid sexual secrets privately, secrets that only my siblings and me and my mom knew. Eddie Lapina, a Hyles-trained church fixture, is acting as interim pastor while a committee searches for Schaaps replacement. (Or would have, had Schaap not habitually railed against the evils of rock music.). The Illinois Department of Children and Family Services investigated, but the cause of death could not be determined. Were there problems, particularly in the latter years? Her feelings of regret are understandable, but all of this is in God's timing. He also had a nasty, nasty temper. Our primary goal with the FBIS is to provide material to assist preachers in the edification and protection of the churches. Nischiks letter, which he later publicized, said in part, MY HOME WAS TAMPERED WITH AND MY MARRIAGE DELIBERATELY WRECKED BY JACK HYLES. I went to him twice about things I had heard about Dave. First Baptist had become a nationwide phenomenon, dubbed a superchurch by Time. This was not merely a simple local church issue. No person has perfect knowledge or perfect memory about events that occurred years in the past, and it is always possible to quibble about some detail of someones story, as any court trial would demonstrate. Hyles-Anderson College appears to be struggling, too. COLUMBUS (WCMH) The Gahanna Division of Police says a woman found dead in her residence on Brookhill Drive was most likely the victim of a murder-suicide. My dad pastored a church that evolved into a 50,000-member cult. Another philosophy of his is that he doesnt want to hear anything, because then he doesnt have to deal with it. According to news reports, in March 1999 Stevens (by this time Hyless wife) told police that she mistakenly ran over the five-year-old, Jack David, who had rolled out the door of her car. Thanks for what youre making me.. Linda Murphrey: "The lies we had to keep were 'for the sake of the ministry'". These were passionate love notes from Jack Hyles to Jennie, all signed Your aching guy, Jack! They expressed undying love, telling Jennie that she was the only woman he loved. Treated her terribly. He got five years in prison. He organized media boycotts and wrote letters savaging the local papers for reprinting filth. Hundreds in his flock rose to his defense. Read more about this topic: Jack Hyles Famous quotes containing the word children: It probably is one the most . There is a gross lack of spiritual discernment at play here. (You know well the horrifying effects doing so can cause, don't you?) FIRST, TO GIVE THE BACKGROUND, LET ME QUOTE FROM THE BOOK , IN REGARD TO HYLES RELATIONSHIP WITH JUDY NISCHIK. (A poster for one appearance called the Hyleses The Worlds Greatest Men.). You call him a liar. When he tried to read a three-page letter, Hyles cried out, You are trying to destroy fundamentalism! and the deacons chimed in by shouting the poor man down. Sadly, in your very heart of hearts you must be the most miserable, lonely person alive. I anxiously await the day that I can say with all honesty, "They did the right thing". Yes, they havent slept together in probably 25 years, they dont share the same bedroom, they dont speak. Breaking Free: Linda Hyles Murphrey Speaks At TEDxOjaiChange | Stuff Fundies Like Current Events, People Breaking Free: Linda Hyles Murphrey Speaks At TEDxOjaiChange August 6, 2012 Darrell 594 Comments Persnickety Polecat August 10, 2012 at 4:48 pm Ah, I see. Multiple websites tracking the First Baptist Church of Hammond have identified more than a dozen men with ties to the churchmany of whom graduated from its college, Hyles-Anderson, or its annual Pastors Schoolswho fanned out around the country, preaching at their own churches and racking up a string of arrests and civil lawsuits, including physical abuse of minors, sexual molestation, and rape. We both graduated the same year and went to college. 2012-2022 Way of Life Literature Inc. v12.19.22, David Cloud, Way of Life Literature, P.O. Jack Hyles was a personal friend. Actually, I have become quite a person with these many lessons of life under my belt and must admit that you were quite a teacher. In 2000, Joseph was sentenced to 114 years in prison; Evangeline got 65. Busby is far from the only person to compare First Baptist to a cult. Offering: Offerings are welcome if you care to make one. All we ask is that you give proper credit. The autopsy revealed trauma and numerous broken bones in various stages of healing. Where there is longstanding passionate romantic steam there is probably physical adultery, but certainly there is mental adultery. In passing, it is interesting to note that Hyles evidence against Vic is loose, unsubstantiated, secondhand, hearsay gossip from unnamed sources (Robert Sumner, The Jack Hyles Story, chapter 5: The Hyles Reply). Voyle Glover, an attorney and longtime church member, was not among the defenders. Anything., While reshaping the morals of his followers, Hyles also set about empire building, Independent Baptiststyle. In fact, she kept it covered with a curtain. Speaker: Linda Hyles Murphrey Date: April 5, 2012 Event: TEDx Conference Continuity 1. He soon took it upon himself to arrange marriages. I mean when I was dating David, the books that Hyles has written on teenagers and dating, we never did one thing that he taught. With God's help, I will make my life in California everything that He would have it be and, unlike you, will not fall. Unfortunately, it went well beyond talk. He taught us that to please him we had to keep all the secrets. The rest of the open letter. Linda Murphrey. His strategy: Send a fleet of buses into some of the roughest neighborhoods in Chicago and northern Indiana, pack them with the poor and underprivileged, and drive them to First Baptist to experience the Gospel according to Hyles. 1. Join Facebook to connect with Linda Murphy and others you may know. And his dad would get up and preach this and browbeat everybody to death to do their kids that way, but David didnt have to live that way. He owned our lives, and we didnt dare cross him, because we were too afraid we would lose everything. Theyre being shamed about how horrible they are. . We hated her. In passing, it is interesting to note that Hyles evidence against Vic is loose, unsubstantiated, secondhand, hearsay gossip from unnamed sources (Robert Sumner. And that was to talk about me; to talk about my life, my life as the daughter of a cult leader. You could see their family from our back door. 3. His dads philosophy is if I didnt see it I dont believe it. Much of our material is available for free, such as the hundreds of articles at the Way of Life web site. He never had restrictions on his life. At Hyless prompting, the congregation gave him a standing ovation. For over fifteen years I have watched and learned much from the circus that you have performed with the lives of those I love most in the world. Today her name is Linda Murphrey and it appears from this testimony that she has rejected biblical Christianity because of the hypocrisy she witnessed growing up in the home of the man who said God had given him "the steering wheel of fundamentalism" and who boasted that his church "was the greatest church in the history of Christianity." It was irresistible: The great Jack Hyles, the man of God, whose schools had dating rules so strict that you could earn a demerit by accidentally touching the end of a pencil held by someone of the opposite sex, was committing adultery. I believe First Baptist Church gradually evolved into a cult that was in complete idolatry of my father and, after his death, complete idolatry of Jack Schaap, she says. It operated and still operates under the guise of an independent fundamental Baptist church. He was chased from a job running the Sunday school at a church in Pinellas Park, Florida, over allegations of more affairs. One of Schaaps adult children, Kenneth, has mounted a letter-writing campaign to the judge. But thats what it is. And Brennan says they have a point. . But yes, there is most definitely a door. Instead, he spoke of doing more for the church, of stepping up, of trying harder. Victoria Former principal at Liberty Baptist Academy, Lake Station, Indiana, Convicted in 2002 of crossing state lines with the intent to have sex with an 11-year-old girl, 7. It really is astonishing, says Jeri Massi, a researcher from Raleigh, North Carolina, who has been documenting the sexual abuse of children in Christian fundamentalism since 2001. With Americas supposed Bible-believing preachers lying like this by abusing the tenses of verbs, it is no wonder that the president of the country testified under oath some that it depends on what the definition of IS is., Various other people testified of the existence of the door, including Dave Hyles wife and a preacher who was long associated with Hyles but left in 1988 because he could no longer tolerate the deception and who wrote to Robert Sumner about the matter in 1989. He got up in front of a staff meetingin front of the whole staffand shared all kinds of confidential stuff that never should have been shared. Previous Post FWOTW: 1611Skirts.com Next Post The Coup de Grce. (The previous are excerpts from Dave Colemans Interview with Paula Hyles Polonco, first wife of Jack Hyles son Dave, November 1, 1989).THE TESTIMONY OF JACK HYLES OWN DAUGHTERThe following is excerpted from Linda Murphreys testimony at the TEDxOjaiChange event in Ojai, California, April 5, 2012. If you dont see it, dont believe it. Linda Hyles Murphrey's testimony is a clear indication of just how wounded those closest to Jack Hyles can be. But Schaap is not simply one of those rogue evangelists who thunders against the evils of forbidden sex while indulging in it himself. Its your ego or a demon or Satans influence that causes you to doubt the edicts of the leadership., First Baptist members have long scoffed at cult comparisons. Up until she was about 10, "things seemed very. Spanking should be deliberate and last at least ten or fifteen minutes, he continued. Head thrown back, eyes squeezed shut, mouth gaping, he began rubbing the shaft rapidly with the cloth, up and down, up and down. The writer claims that she was a victim of emotional abuse and was snubbed by the upper class. My 21-year-old radar told me he was a fraud. The Bible was to be interpreted literally and by Hyles alone. It was evident months later (and perfectly clear from where I sit, today) that this man was a sadist who derived pleasure from wielding control over peoples lives. I asked Rick Ross, whose nonprofit institute maintains an online archive of data on cults and controversial movements. A seemingly endless list of rulesboth written and unwrittengrew and multiplied. Linda. He told us she was crazy. Ive never been able to say the c-wordand anyone from the church who reads this will take great offensebut thats what it was like.. I knew the man. Summary: Articles about Linda Hyles Murphrey - The Jim Baumer Experience Walking away from fundamentalist Christianity was a pivotal event in my life. So yes, he did know. Our pastor back home had given us a point of contact. Our home was so full of turmoil, hatred, stress, strife, and as a little girl, it was isolating, it was intense, and it was frightening. Charles V. Shifflett, 61 I, too, witnessed a lot of hypocrisy growing up in a Baptist church, but my unbelief and rebellion was my own fault and not something I could blame on others. I have no spiritual respect for a preacher who defends Jack Hyles. . As with most of his sermons at the northwest Indiana megachurchthe 14th largest in the country and the biggest Independent Baptist house of worship in the nationthe message struck as bluntly as a pounded nail: Submit to Gods plan for your life or be snapped like a twig and flung away (as Schaap would demonstrate by cracking a stick over his head, tossing it aside, and barking, Next!). God will hold a metaphorical knife to your throat (as Schaap would illustrate by holding a steel blade against a twig the way an assailant might press on a jugular). I dont care how controlling Jack Schaap was. Since Schaaps arrest, a Facebook page dedicated to supporting victims has popped up. He promises that there will be no cover-up. And even to our adult years, he owned us. (I had also been instructed to carry a Biblethe King James Versionbut I couldnt find my mothers and so arrived empty-handed.). Infancy. Both Terry Duff and Eddie Lapina can help you fill in the details. He was so interested in mine and Davids personal relationship. But those who have left, the followers who have tried to leave, the outsiders, even the media (it was on 20/20 last year) recognize that it is clearly a cult. They need to know that there is help. They didnt dare disagree or be disloyal, for fear of being publicly ridiculed or punished or banished for doing so. My father tried desperately to cover it up. As the bible saysBe sure your sin will find you out.This is such a sad thing to have happened. One of the things I know about organized religion is that reality regularly falls far short of the ideal. Questions? But, of course, I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.If you and your client really want to do the right thing, you'll face the fact that First Baptist Church has had a cancer growing in it for nearly 50 years. You had to really look. If it were not so, the Bible would not thrice warn in the New Testament Epistles, Be not deceived.. She talks about growing up and finally leaving the cult at age 28. That is insane! What was it that you used to say, 'Little leopards have spots because big leopards have spots'? AG. Meanwhile, the churchs lawyer, David Gibbs, has called for other victims to come forward with their stories. Torrent v.2. . What was going on [at First Baptist] was kind of like a process of hollowing out the followers and repopulating them with yourself, says Schaaps former editor. Its hard to believe. His influence was vast. After the divorce, Jennie moved into a brand new $150,000 condominium at Hyles generous behest. After graduation, he set out to spread his particular brand of harsh theology. See also Other Works | Publicity Listings | Official Sites Eddie Lapina was witness to all of that. Things we do not want copied and redistributed are items like the Fundamental Baptist Digital Library, the print and eBook editions of our books, etc. Jack Hyles set himself up as the saviour of fundamentalism and the pastor of pastors. I would just sit there, and he would say, My son David and Paula never single dated, and I would look at David and start laughing and think, This is hilarious; I cant believe that he gets up and says this. His dad gave me six months of sex counseling before David and I got married, and I could nail him just with that and what he said to me. The blows should be painful and should last . Facebook gives people the power. I told his dad about that. Whispers began that he was having an affair with the daughter of a high-level administrator at Hyles-Anderson College. 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